I got these guys at the September meeting from George and they have quadrupled in size!!! I love them but they are going to force me into putting them into a bigger tank sooner than I expected. I feel bad cuz they are crammed in with my discus,blue rams,cories and a couple plecos. Im seriously thinking about selling my MALAWIS and putting these guys in my 125G and skipping buying a new tank all together. BTW the Geos had just eaten bloodworms so their bellies look really full. Cowherdi Blue ram "nothing to see here, just some driftwood"