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Discus Has Worm

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mharnet

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A 2mm round brown worm was protuding from anus of discus. It went back in. Fish is eating well, but fish lost weight and color.

There's two discus in a 55 gal planted community tank. They have been very healthy and breeding except for past couple months.

I have live blackworms for dwarf puffers, and the discus get some blackworms once a month or twice a month. They also eat Hikari frozem bloodworms. The other discus wont eat dried foods.

Kind of concerned about it.

I am just wondering do I treat the whole tank or just the discus. and prazi seems the med of choice, can I get at Petco or pet stores?

Mark
 
maddog10

maddog10

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Hmmmm, If it were me I would probably treat the whole tank at this point. Prazi is the dewormer of coice (as you mentioned). Fish stores should have it, not sure about the big box stores. Hope this helps.
 
mscichlid

mscichlid

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Hi Mark, You can get pure Prazi at Jehmco. http://www.jehmco.com/PRODUCTS_/WATER_TREA...edications.html Scroll down to Prazi


Some reading if you want...

http://www.simplydiscus.com/library/diseas...s_intro11.shtml

http://www.simplydiscus.com/library/diseas...nematodes.shtml

http://www.garlic.mistral.co.uk/Allicin.htm

http://www.allicin.com/

Read the above articles, and make your own judgements. Jack Wattley (the pioneer of garlic as a natural medicine in fish food) now suggests to thaw your BH mix first, mash the garlic quickly into a paste, and then mix it into your thawed BH (beefheart) mix and feed immediately. The above links prove his practice.


Francine
 
M

mharnet

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alright thanks for all the advice. went to pet shop, got PraziPro, made first application.

don't laugh, Francine, they're names, Ginger and Fred!

ginger, the brown female, has the tapeworm : ((

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Mark
 
Andrew

Andrew

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If you can get them to eat it, there is a medicated food manufactured by Jungle Laboratories called (duh) Anti-Parasite. This contains metronidizole, praziquantel and levamisole. Praz is effective against round and flat worms but will not kill segmented worms like tapeworms. You need the levamisole for this. Unfortunately it's not readily available except in this food formula. I would suggest getting the koi formula version since the pellets are larger.
 
Spine

Spine

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Mark.
It sounds like your fish might have Trematode worms. These worms also live in your substrate during part of its life cycle so treating the whole tank is a must. I pretty sure that Levamisole is the only med that will work for Trematodes. If you have time to read it here is a link for a study done at the University of Florida by Dr. Roy P.E Yanong http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/pdffiles/FA/FA09100.pdf



The dosage rate for levamisole in a bath is 2 mg/L (2 ppm) for 24 hours (followed by 70-100% water change, andsiphon the bottoms of the tanks), with repeat treatmentsnecessary--retreat in 2-3 weeks, and probably one more time after that.
This is regardless of size of fish. I've only treated my tanks twice and have never had any problems Here is a dosing wizard (Got this on Loaches online forum) this should help when you calculate your doses. http://www.geocities.com/chefkeithallen/Le...sole.html?20078


When looking for Levamisole on the net I only found two places that had it in powder form its used as a pig wormer. I got mine at (http://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?PGGUID=30e078b2-7b6a-11d5-a192-00b0d0204ae5) because both places were in the mid- west and wanted roughly the same amount but ValleyVet shipped for free so I got it from them.
If you think you will never encounter this problem agian an just want enough meds for two doses send me a PM I should have enough left to hook you up.
 
Andrew

Andrew

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Spine,

What was the second supplier? Valley Vet's web site isn't coming up right now...

Thanks

Mark.
It sounds like your fish might have Trematode worms. These worms also live in your substrate during part of its life cycle so treating the whole tank is a must. I pretty sure that Levamisole is the only med that will work for Trematodes. If you have time to read it here is a link for a study done at the University of Florida by Dr. Roy P.E Yanong http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/pdffiles/FA/FA09100.pdf



The dosage rate for levamisole in a bath is 2 mg/L (2 ppm) for 24 hours (followed by 70-100% water change, andsiphon the bottoms of the tanks), with repeat treatmentsnecessary--retreat in 2-3 weeks, and probably one more time after that.
This is regardless of size of fish. I've only treated my tanks twice and have never had any problems Here is a dosing wizard (Got this on Loaches online forum) this should help when you calculate your doses. http://www.geocities.com/chefkeithallen/Le...sole.html?20078


When looking for Levamisole on the net I only found two places that had it in powder form its used as a pig wormer. I got mine at (http://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?PGGUID=30e078b2-7b6a-11d5-a192-00b0d0204ae5) because both places were in the mid- west and wanted roughly the same amount but ValleyVet shipped for free so I got it from them.
If you think you will never encounter this problem agian an just want enough meds for two doses send me a PM I should have enough left to hook you up.[/b]
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Andrew

Andrew

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Somehow... It's like meeting someone you know in the drug store when you have a cart full of Depends, a pregnancy test kit and two cans of Tinactin! :blush:

Not the best pick up line either: So, where do YOU buy your Levamisole?
 
DeeCee

DeeCee

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Somehow... It's like meeting someone you know in the drug store when you have a cart full of Depends, a pregnancy test kit and two cans of Tinactin! :blush:

Not the best pick up line either: So, where do YOU buy your Levamisole?[/b]
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I just wanna know why Andrew is buying pregnancy test kits for himself?

Mark, good luck with those worms. They can be kinda hard to get rid of, especially in a planted tank. How did the treatment work for you?

Donna
 
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