Malawi vs. Tanganyika vs. Victoria

Sonny Disposition

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I haven't settled on fish from any particular lake yet. Or continent either, for that matter. Or family of fishes, either. I like the Malawians for their ease of breeding, bright color, and (comparatively) good temper. These are great for line breeding, to see if you can one day ultimately produce a show stopper fish.

Likewise, my gymnogeophagus are incredibly cool. I love the way they sift sand all day. That's a quality I wouldn't be crazy about in a woman, mind you, but, in fish, it's really neat. My longterm project is to build a community planted tank around this species.

Next come my super mean pair bonding cichlids--A. salvini, from central america, and my north african jewel fish, H. letourneauxi. Even though they destroy any tankmates when they're in spawning mode, their spawning colors are beautiful and intense. And it's really cool to watch them tend their fry. I wouldn't want all my fish to be this mean or this intense--it would be too much work--but working with these two species is a lot of fun.

Then there's the Pelvicacromis taeniatus. The colors in both the male and female are really nice. And so different, they look like different species. And the pair seems to be so dedicated to each other. They don't even fight over food!

And finally, my non-cichlids: the black banded sunnies, for their stateliness and friendliness, the spotted bullheads for their stealth and lumbering grace, and yes, even the killies, for their colors, and their reserved demeanor.

I haven't worked with Tanganyikans much, yet, but only because I haven't got around to them. At the moment, I'm pressed for space, too. If I see some tropheus species that has a lot of red someday, I'll probably try them out again.

Not quite the answer you had in mind when you asked the question, but the best answer I can give.
 

DiscusnAfricans

Past President
Not quite the answer you had in mind when you asked the question, but the best answer I can give.
Its still great information and insight, so no complaints! Some people only keep certain types, so their opinions are based on limited experience. I appreciate the comparisons and contrasts to each other, it puts the info in perspective.
 

longstocking

Members
hmmmmm

bi-parental mouth brooding
egg layers
maternal mouth brooders
CATS !!! Synos ...

Some fish will take care of fry... some will not.

Some will eat their fry....

Some will go diving into sand...

One of the biggest differences is actually how they "swim" . Each tang moves differently in the water.

Some are sensitive .. some are not

Some are mean SOB's and some are as gentle as a guppy ( or close lol )

Some are pair bonding... some are little hussies :p

Some school... some do not...

Some are open water...

You just have so much variety it's endless. Also half of the lake is really unexplored due to the wars in the congo area. So you cann get excited when something "new" gets smuggled out of the congo lol.

It's just a more evolved lake :p
 

Sonny Disposition

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Thanks. To add to what I just said, it's also nice to have a mix of mean difficult fish and nice easy fish. I'm not currently keeping any goldfish, but I really like them. Not the bubble eyed or long finned line bred strains that the breeders like. But the more colorful strains that still have the traditional goldfish form. Sarassa comets are great, because of the bright white and orange pattern. Even feeder goldfish are neat.

They're peaceful and friendly. Like aquatic cows. A nice and welcome contrast to the salvini pair (which took out their lone salvini tankmate after they paired off.)
 

DiscusnAfricans

Past President
lol yes it's an older lake.
I remember reading that it was, I just wanted to see if you were poking fun at the Malawi people. I wonder if the Malawi fish will eventually evolve some of the characteristics that the Tanganyikans have. I know it'll never happen in our lifetime though.
 

longstocking

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They have already started to evolve like lake tang... you can see it in some of their behaviors...

Sifting sand...
Insect eaters that jump out of the water...

They do show quite a bit of evolution....

Just not quite as much as lake tang.... also one of the differences are that they might show the behavior in the wild... but they sometimes don't in your tanks.
 
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fweed

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malawi all the way so much more color and action. Thou I have not had any experience with the other side
 

DiscusnAfricans

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Just not quite as much as lake tang.... also one of the differences are that they might show the behavior in the wild... but they sometimes don't in your tanks.
Thats why I like to hear the stories of people who have observed natural behavior in the wild. Its neat to be able to trace the changes in their behavioral adaptations over time. Evolutionary biology was always one of my favorite topics. Thanks for all the great info, I know why some refer to you as "Queen of the Tangs."
 

longstocking

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you mean I'm full of useless information that means nothing? :lol:

I just started hearing that... It makes me laugh. I just read a lot.
 

DiscusnAfricans

Past President
The information only means nothing if you don't use it. Sharing it with us makes it worth something. I'll leave the reading up to you and just ask the specific questions. I have fish books I use for reference, but I have the attention span of a puppy when it comes to reading.
 

rich_one

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my memory of my malawis are lots of color, and lots of swimming around, in and out of the rocks and such. mainly, aimless fun and activity. back then, I was not into the whole breeding ritual thing... I just cared about color and motion.

with my tangs, it literally looks like to me, that these fish are actively thinking about what to do next. I mean, every move my calvus makes, seems to have a specific purpose. my pair of Lamprologus ornatipinnis are super interesting. here, I saw this fish and thought I'd be bored... but the seller tossed them in with the rest, so I said okay... I'll give them try. the fins colored up so nicely, I was shocked when I saw them the next day... and the way they kind of scoot, then stop with the bottom fins resting like little feet... repeat... it is just fascinating to watch them maneuver about the tank tending to their business... especially when one decided to dig a cave underneath a piece of wood (yes... I have wood and rocks in my tank). it was amazing how dedicated it was to completing this task.

anyway... I don't know... it just seems like you have it all... color and high activity (cyps), slow, regal, predator-style exploring (calvus), and curious moving little workers (ornatipinnis). I just love the different little things that go on in that tank daily, I guess! LOL...
 

Charlutz

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They have already started to evolve like lake tang... you can see it in some of their behaviors...

Sifting sand...
Insect eaters that jump out of the water...

They do show quite a bit of evolution....

Just not quite as much as lake tang.... also one of the differences are that they might show the behavior in the wild... but they sometimes don't in your tanks.

I'd actually give the malawis some credit for that. When Ad was here the last two years, he told us some very interesting things about some very common fish that unfortunately you won't see in the tanks. The m. auratus feeding on insects out of the water; the sc. fryeri mimicking mbuna and then preying on them; and the aulonocara using sonar to feed on crustaceans under the sand. Just some of the fascinating behavior that you likely won't get to see in your tank.
 

maddog10

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I think that is what Sarah is saying. The fish from Malawi are starting to develop behavior that is more prevalent in Lake Tanganyika.
 

SubMariner

Master Jedi & Past VP
I'd actually give the malawis some credit for that. When Ad was here the last two years, he told us some very interesting things about some very common fish that unfortunately you won't see in the tanks. The m. auratus feeding on insects out of the water; the sc. fryeri mimicking mbuna and then preying on them; and the aulonocara using sonar to feed on crustaceans under the sand. Just some of the fascinating behavior that you likely won't get to see in your tank.


Very good point Charlie, thanx for pointing that out.:happy0144:


RM
 

cholile

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If you could only keep two or three tang species, which would you keep and why?

I ask because I hope to maintain my larger, all-male, hap tank, but would like to have another tank focused on tangs and, presumably, the reason is to appreciate the variants in behavior, shapes etc.
 

rich_one

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I really do not have enough experience with Tangs to fully say just yet. I know I am very enamored with calvus/comps for whatever reason... I just think they look so cool. but I am still exploring the others, so I have not had any of the others I'd like to try out at some point like paracyps for instance. I do have some julies transcriptus coming soon, and also some occies (which is another very cool looking little fish!). so for now, I guess I only have one, while experimenting to see what else I like best.

if I may, I do want to say something about Vics... when I see pics of them, I am intrigued, because they also have some seriously colorful fish... but I know nothing about the behaviors though... have only experienced them through others photos so far, but some of they have some seriously nice coloring.

okay... just wanted to say that... back to the previously scheduled program...
 
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