blue rams

fishman13

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My rams arent the best parents. So now i am artificualy rearing the fry. Eggs were laid yesturday. What needs to happen. The rock that the eggs are on is sitting on an airstone in the tankwith the parents. What happens next. Like what are the stages?
 

jonclark96

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Depending on temperature, the eggs will hatch in 2-3 days into wigglers. The wigglers will feed off of their egg sacs for another few days and then become free swimming. I wait until all of the fry are free swimming until I start feeding the fry.
 

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My rams arent the best parents. So now i am artificualy rearing the fry. Eggs were laid yesturday. What needs to happen. The rock that the eggs are on is sitting on an airstone in the tankwith the parents. What happens next. Like what are the stages?

Stage 1: Despair - the eggs fungus or are eaten and nothing hatches;
Stage 2: Fury - the eggs hatch and the fry are eaten by the parents or predators;
Stage 3: Denial - the fry absorb their yolk sacs and receive wrong or insufficient food to survive or perish due to other operator failure (e.g, poor water quality);
Stage 4: Agony - additional operator error or neglect causes the demise of most or all of the juveniles that would have otherwise survived;
Stage 5: Melancholy - surviving juveniles and young adults are so abundant that all or most must be sold for peanuts to undeserving and ungrateful strangers who will likely forsake them because they have little or no appreciation for just how privileged they are to have your very special fish or the amount of torment that was involved in rearing them;
Stage 6: Groundhog Months- Repeat beginning at Stage 1.

Not really. S'easy, follow the advice above and just make sure you feed them well and often (with food they can get into their mouths) the first couple weeks as they have no reserves to fall back on. If they make it that far you should be golden. Luck.
 
Typically eggs will hatch in 40hrs (yes, less than 2 days) at 82F. It will take another 5 days for them to become freeswimmers.

1 day after hatched.
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1st day free swimming.
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Female with fry.
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1 month old ram fry.
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fishman13

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Well i need a new male german blue ram. He is no longer fertilizing. the eggs werent fertilized. Any body got one?
 

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Well i need a new male german blue ram. He is no longer fertilizing. the eggs werent fertilized. Any body got one?

Maybe you just need a sexier female. Relax, good things take time, your chances are probably just as good with the one you have, could be he just had a "headache" that day. She'll try again if she's happy and a good chance he will participate as well because i really doubt that he's sterile.
 

Andrewtfw

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Like Sam said, the female may not be receptive at the moment. It may be to your advantage (if breeding is your intent) to acquire an additional female, rather than another male.
 
Befor blaming the male, you should make sure to provide the proper water conditions, food, environment to facilitate their breeding success. Most of the time, it is not the fish but the fishkeeper that is at fault for the fail spawn.
 

williemcd

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I picked up a six-pack of juvies while visiting my folks in NY for the Christmas holiday. Got home, threw them in my Discus tank.. Friday I noted a cloud of fry around a pair.. The next day while showing my neighbor the fry, he pointed out towards the back of the tank yet another cloud of fry and another set of parents. This tank is a 155G densely planted to the gills.. That's my excuse for not catching them sooner!. Days 1 and 2 all seemed well, feeding them microworms and first bytes. (no bbs hatch set up yet).. Leaving the lights on 7 X 24 (1/3 of the total lighting) seemed to work until this a.m. All gone!.. I'm looking forward to the next week or just after in which I'll be pulling them as soon as f/s... Bill in Va.
 

Hawkman2000

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Stage 1: Despair - the eggs fungus or are eaten and nothing hatches;
Stage 2: Fury - the eggs hatch and the fry are eaten by the parents or predators;
Stage 3: Denial - the fry absorb their yolk sacs and receive wrong or insufficient food to survive or perish due to other operator failure (e.g, poor water quality);
Stage 4: Agony - additional operator error or neglect causes the demise of most or all of the juveniles that would have otherwise survived;
Stage 5: Melancholy - surviving juveniles and young adults are so abundant that all or most must be sold for peanuts to undeserving and ungrateful strangers who will likely forsake them because they have little or no appreciation for just how privileged they are to have your very special fish or the amount of torment that was involved in rearing them;
Stage 6: Groundhog Months- Repeat beginning at Stage 1.

Not really. S'easy, follow the advice above and just make sure you feed them well and often (with food they can get into their mouths) the first couple weeks as they have no reserves to fall back on. If they make it that far you should be golden. Luck.

So true.
 
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