Verbal.. hit me with this post from an ACA member in New Jersey.. "This one on the ACA is a hike(NJ), but potentially a good deal:" http://www.cichlid.org/forums/showthread.php?t=7275 I spoke with Chris via email and he is looking to sell everything all at once. So here was a thought I had and just wanted to toss it onto the floor for everyone to chew on a little. What if those of us interested in gaining some new tank space were to throw in on a group buy? Gather up the funds through a joint treasurer and rent a uhaul (splitting the cost of the truck) and head up. I would want one of the 125g another 75 to 90 g and one of the 55 gallons that would max me out in my apartment. This guy is currently running 125 plus tanks so there would be no shortage. of tanks available 10 gallons all the way up the scale. Evidently there is a large amount of equipment filtration lights.. stands..What are your thoughts out there? I would be more than willing to do the driving.