Fishn'
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Any feedback on three female German Rams with a male? I know they pair up, but will this work as well or will the single female Rams get bullied all the time?
German Rams: To herem or not 2 herem?
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It is a great situation to have more females than males for GB rams, particularly in a tank that is mainly for show. That way the male does not focus on one female who might not be ready to spawn.
It is also a good situation if you want to get a spawn, but the size of the tank can play a role. If the tank is too small, the extra females can interfere with the pair that is spawning. But if the tank is around a 20-long, there is plenty of room and the extra females then are more like dithers. Dithers can make the spawning pair better parents because they need to protect the eggs and fry. But remember to keep a light on or night light on at night so the parents can continue to protect their spawn.
It is also a good situation if you want to get a spawn, but the size of the tank can play a role. If the tank is too small, the extra females can interfere with the pair that is spawning. But if the tank is around a 20-long, there is plenty of room and the extra females then are more like dithers. Dithers can make the spawning pair better parents because they need to protect the eggs and fry. But remember to keep a light on or night light on at night so the parents can continue to protect their spawn.
Fishn'
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Thank you Frank. Wasn't sure about the GBR's. Makes sense.
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Fishn'
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Frank, I'm resurrecting an old thread here. I have sought out this question from three other aquarium shop owners/long term employees. Two say no herem and one says yes. I am on the side of your statement. I just watch the male Ram almost all day chase the female to the point of exhaustion and not eating. I feel three in there would distribute the strain. I know they are pairing fish, but we shall see.
CSnyder00
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What size tank are they in now? Tank mates? What kind of cover?
Fishn'
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40 g, 79 degrees, lot's of amazon swords and blixia, substantial drift wood with many "caves" and nooks, one medium synthetic cave.
stany
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I started with 7 juv's with a Gold tossed in my the seller. The first pair started breeding in 2 months. I gave them to my grandson for his tank and they never spawned after that. My remaining 5 ended up being a 1M/3F colony and 1M/1F pair. The breeder I bought them from sent along a sample Bolivian Golden male that ended up paring up with one of the GBR females. Never saw either spawn. They lasted a year. 78 degrees, 7.0 ph. Dither fish of Cardinal tetra, Beckford Pencilfish did fine.
CSnyder00
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At this point and seeing your tank size, I’d keep 1:1 males and females but go with 2-3 “pairs”. This give them the chance to chose mates as well as fend off other fish from their eggs if they spawn.
Fishn'
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She finally decided he was worthy.
stany
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I think they are very cool fish to keep. Have some Bolivian Butterfly juv's I got from last months meeting speaker I'm enjoying. Under 1 inch but already males are locking jaws for dominance. Looks like the one on top is a male. The bottom one does not have a red belly but blue spots on the first stripe... I think.
Fishn'
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Cool fish indeed. The Bolivians have a great personality. I have one in another tank. The bottom Ram's belly really reddened up today.
KRUCIAN KING
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I love Bolivians Rams my group of three males have been in my 72 gallon tank for over 7 years the one female I had died about 3 years ago.
Fishn'
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I have had my German Blues in a herem for about 6 days now. 3 F x 1 M. It has really chilled out the male and they all seem pretty happy. The pair have still stayed together but all are "calmer".
