Having just experienced bloat with the Pseudotropheus Zebra sp. long pelvic, I've only fed the Tropheus spirulina wafer. I've only got three of them (Tropheus sp. Red "Lupota") and they're still pretty small. In addition to the wafer, I see the big one pick algae off the glass and chew on java moss. Has anyone ever tried a vegetarian gelatin mix for Tropheus and mbuna? I was thinking this would be a good way to approximate what they get in nature, and perhaps give them some garlic. Sarah, what do you think? The idea would be to either use a commercial vegetarian formula, or else soak some wafers/spirula sticks until they were soft, add some blenderized romaine lettuce and soaked sushi wrappers, and a bulb or two of garlic per cup. The whole thing would be bound together with knox gelatin (A package and a half per cup of water.) I've tried agar as a binding agent, but it doesn't work well. Neither does pectin, which requires lots of sucrose. If you wanted to condition them, you could add a half teaspoon or so of daphnia, or brine shrimp eggs. Discus supposedly benefit from garlic (and they really love it.) Does anyone have any experience with giving garlic to the African herbivores? Maybe it would work as a bloat preventive. Thanks.