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Unread 11-17-2011, 7:52 PM   #1
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WTB: sponge filters

im looking for about 30 or so sponge filters so i can switch over my tanks from HOB filters to a central blower with sponge filters (so i can save a little on the elctric bill, which is about $2500 a month ) im in york, pa so if possible id like it to be close to me let me know how many your looking to get rid of and what you want for them. thanks in advance!
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Unread 11-17-2011, 8:21 PM   #2
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I'd get in touch with the guys at Swiss Tropicals. They were one of the sponsors for the ACA convention and provided the sponges for the show tanks. I have been really impressed with their performance so far, and they are relatively affordable. I'm sure they could work with you on pricing if you are buying in bulk.
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Unread 11-17-2011, 8:43 PM   #3
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Unread 11-17-2011, 11:21 PM   #4
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It's $285 for 30 from Www.yourfishstuff.com even with free shipping code.....
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Unread 11-18-2011, 6:00 AM   #5
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It's $285 for 30 from Www.yourfishstuff.com even with free shipping code.....
That's about 12% of your monthly electrical bill.
IMO that's a small token if you consider that you'll make that money in short time (compare to running all those electrical driven filters 24/7). The most costly item, the blower, you already have it.
If you are looking for 30 used sponge filters it might take awhile to gather that many and not necessary the sizes you need. So you might have to buy the sponge refills, which YFS also sells (the Hydro brand), at a fraction of what the whole sponge filter costs.
I know, because I just got them from them and I wish I had done it months ago. And they costs about 75% less if you already have the guts, which you can buy used.
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Unread 11-18-2011, 7:23 AM   #6
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I keep a sponge and a box in most tanks...sponge for primarily bio...and box for primarily mechanical filtration. I find that there's a lot less gunk in the sponges with this set-up....

I'd bet that a bigger chunk of your electric bill is coming from heating that HOB filters...but every bit helps!

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Unread 11-18-2011, 8:06 AM   #7
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I'm thinking maybe that electric bill was a typo? Even at our peak with 200 tanks and a boat load of heaters (before we heated the entire room) our electric bill wasn't anywhere near $2500 and we are in York as well. I'm thinking he may have meant $250.

We did have extra sponge filters but now that we are setting back up for a major fishroom (god help me) I don't think we will have any extra till we switch over to the ones from Swiss tropicals.



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Unread 11-18-2011, 9:24 AM   #8
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Unless you are willing to accumulate used sponges slowly by going to fish auctions, I agree with others that buying them new is a better bet.

If you do not already have your air pump, I would recommend you look at a linear piston pump which are quiet. Blowers do put out a lot of air but also a lot of noise. Most of the sellers of these linear pumps will help you size them for the number of tanks etc. you have.



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Unread 11-18-2011, 12:42 PM   #9
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If you don't care about color, you could also look into sponge filters by Deep Blue. They are a bright blue but are built to mirror the ones by hydro.



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Unread 11-18-2011, 12:50 PM   #10
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Well I already have the blower, vortex brand I believe not quite sure tho I bought it a while back. And the $2500 wasn't a typo on my end......we rent and the owner said we need to get out electric use down or rents goin up and he might even kick us out. But I'm only running 14 tanks now but getting wall built soon to hold 14 more, hence the 30 sponges.....might even want 60, 2 for each tank. I'm not sure tho what I'm doing yet tho. any ideas guys??? Any and all help is greatly appreciated!!!
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Unread 11-18-2011, 4:59 PM   #11
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Go with the poret filter material and make the maten style filters for your tanks.

Filter maintenance goes way down with these, you clean the filter once per year.

The material is expensive but lasts forever from what I have heard, so you never have to replace it.

I just bought a 1 meter cube of this shipped into Madison Wi to switch my fish room over to it.
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Unread 11-18-2011, 5:07 PM   #12
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Oh and another thing you can do is purchase this

http://www.menards.com/main/building...986-c-5778.htm

and cut and tape it to the back and sides of your tanks.

We had a member in our club who got a meter from the local power company that meassures the energy used over a given period.

he put this on a heater on a tank and ran it for three days. Then used this insulation and wrapped the two sides and the back of the tank and then measured the energy usage. He saw a 66% reduction in energy usage heating the tank once it was insulated. I have purchased this and started the process of insulating my tanks with it.
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Unread 11-18-2011, 5:32 PM   #13
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Really good tip, Randy.

Covering your tanks well also helps with hear retention...

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Oh and another thing you can do is purchase this

http://www.menards.com/main/building...986-c-5778.htm

and cut and tape it to the back and sides of your tanks.

We had a member in our club who got a meter from the local power company that meassures the energy used over a given period.

he put this on a heater on a tank and ran it for three days. Then used this insulation and wrapped the two sides and the back of the tank and then measured the energy usage. He saw a 66% reduction in energy usage heating the tank once it was insulated. I have purchased this and started the process of insulating my tanks with it.
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Unread 11-18-2011, 1:10 PM   #14
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I would carefully look at everything plugged in within your unit and the related wattage being used. It sounds like something is either bleeding electricity, a large appliance that is outdated is consuming major wattage, or there is a problem with your meter. You may want to call your electic company and have them check to ensure the meter is working properly. I had a friend who was getting charged much more than his neighbors. The electric company told him the charges are based on an estimated usage. It turned out that the charges were being based on a time when the meter was faulty. After the electric company came and checked the actual meter reading, his bill decreased by more than half. I am not saying that this is your problem, but you never know.



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Unread 11-18-2011, 1:25 PM   #15
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$30,000 a year, WOW!!
That's a heck of a fishroom if you just cut 10% to 20% of your electrical bill.
Not that I'm doubting of your statement, BUUUUUUUUUT what the heck are you running in your household that the electrical bill is so high? And the landlord is paying for it? What's your monthly rent if you don't mind me asking?
Have you checked with the landlord about altering the place? With most that would constitute grounds for eviction. Just warning you.
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Unread 11-18-2011, 1:30 PM   #16
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I'm thinking its a typo, otherwise his power bill is higher than my mortgage...
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He claims it's not a typo. My boss had a 6,000 sq. ft house that didn't cost that much to run.
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Unread 11-18-2011, 2:04 PM   #18
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the $2500 is what the owner is CLAIMING the electric bill is but we dont pay it & we have never seen it but it prolly went up very high over the summer cuz of air conditioners and such which may b where he got his $2500 bill or he could just want us gone or want me to tear down the fish room =( no matter what the case is im switching this up for the winter. building the 14 tank wall (two 55gal, three 29 gal, four 20H gal, and five 10 gals) and want to get at least all of those on sponge filters. but im also changing to heating the entire room like BevN said about. and last but not least instead of running individual lights on each tank im going to run two 4 foot lights on each shelf (saves me 6 lights) but no matter what i need to do something cuz i refuse to get out of the hobby i love it wayyyy to much. BTW THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP!!!
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Unread 11-18-2011, 2:15 PM   #19
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There is no way that 14 tanks are running up a $2500 electric bill.

I live in York. Have Met-Ed and use a bunch of power.

Average size house: approx 2,000 sq ft.
One 10x12x3 foot outdoor pond with filter and pump running 24/7
One 15x40x2 foot outdoor pond with pump running 24/7
One three tier fountain with small pump

One large fishroom with air pump, dehumidifier, lights (plant tanks on 24/7) and a few heaters running for those picky fish.

One 125 tank upstairs with heat kept at a balmy 85 degrees.

That doesn't count all the other normal stuff...computers running, dryer, big *** plasma tv and so on.

My last electric bill, which I think was a high estimate....$240.

I think your landlord is yanking your chain.



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You might want to look into moving. Unless its a huge building thats not the electric bill. I live in a 4 apartment building and with my 20 tanks the bill is around 375 total for everyone. (I have to pat the difference from before the tanks and current)
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