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DiscusnAfricans
04-20-2009, 1:35 PM
I thought I remembered seeing something about an auction during the last weekend of April. Where can I find details on the event? How is it run similar to ours? I appreciate any info. Thanks.

maddog10
04-20-2009, 1:42 PM
Not run like ours. Buyers and sellers must register. Bidders have to turn in their drivers license, because you run a tab until you are ready to leave or the auction ends. You get your license back when you pay your tab. Sellers get a check mailed to them at a later date. Pretty sure that is correct.

F8LBITE
04-20-2009, 1:45 PM
The PVAS spring auction is awesome. I went to it last year and really wished I would have brought more money. Its really easy to get to its like 1/4 mile off of RT66. Something for everybody, unfortunately Im going to be outof town this weekend otherwise Id be there.

http://www.pvas.com/auctions.php

DiscusnAfricans
04-20-2009, 2:10 PM
Thanks for all of the info. I was going to ask about the when and where but I got all the info from the link. I'd like to get down there, but not sure if I will make it. I'd ideally have to be down in VA by 10AM. Getting up early on a weekend and driving in VA are 2 things I rarely do. Many people planning on going from our club?

maddog10
04-20-2009, 2:15 PM
I am sure there will be quite a few people from the CCA there.

Jumbie
04-20-2009, 2:24 PM
I plan on goning this weekend.

SubMariner
04-20-2009, 4:06 PM
Yea, the last time I went was spring of 2007 and there were hardly any African Cichlids in the Auction. I was some what disappointed, but I heard last year was pretty decent. They have great deals on Tanks.

If anyone has more details about the Auction that would be great.


RM

George
04-20-2009, 7:22 PM
I understand that there will be some very nice and very big tanks(200+ gal rumor has it). There are always plenty of interesting drygoods. Cichlids are not big with PVAS. That doesn't mean there won't be some good ones but many PVASers are borderline anti-cichlid. If you are available Sunnday and especially if you haven't gone before, I promise you won't be sorry if you go. There are always fish you never thought you would see at prices that are terrific. It is a very good and well run event.

George

mrkillie
04-21-2009, 12:24 AM
I was thinking about going, but I'd like to know more about how the auction is run. If the auction starts at 10:00, but registration still goes until noon, will they be auctioning items that you haven't had a chance to view yet? Is there a separate staging area for items being brought in later? Does that mean you'll have to miss some of the auction if you want to view items coming in? Are items auctioned on a first come, first auctioned basis? I was at the fall auction and it was done pretty well, but they didn't take items in after the auction started. This sounds a bit shaky.

Please clue me in!

Joel

iamzrad
04-21-2009, 12:47 AM
I plan on attending.
Hope to see some familiar faces there!

longstocking
04-21-2009, 11:28 AM
I probably won't make this... although I just might !

Joel... I'm not sure.

Charlutz
04-21-2009, 11:36 AM
I was thinking about going, but I'd like to know more about how the auction is run. If the auction starts at 10:00, but registration still goes until noon, will they be auctioning items that you haven't had a chance to view yet? Is there a separate staging area for items being brought in later? Does that mean you'll have to miss some of the auction if you want to view items coming in? Are items auctioned on a first come, first auctioned basis? I was at the fall auction and it was done pretty well, but they didn't take items in after the auction started. This sounds a bit shaky.

Please clue me in!

Joel


I used to go years and years ago. The way it worked then was that the items were auctioned off in order. So each seller numbered their own items 1-15 or whatever. If you had more than the 10 or 15 items that made up a seller sheet, you filled out a second sheet. All the 1's were auctioned first, then the 2's, etc. The 1's took the longest to do because there were more of them, and because people usually put their best stuff first, which meant more (and longer) bidding. There were breaks every so often so you could look at the tables and see what was coming in late. It's pretty much like any other auction. You have to sit through a lot of stuff you won't be interested in, but you can score some great deals. I got an Iwaki water pump for $35 and when I didn't need it anymore, sold it on ebay maybe 5-7 years later for $175.

lonlangione
04-21-2009, 2:57 PM
I was thinking about going, but I'd like to know more about how the auction is run. If the auction starts at 10:00, but registration still goes until noon, will they be auctioning items that you haven't had a chance to view yet? Is there a separate staging area for items being brought in later? Does that mean you'll have to miss some of the auction if you want to view items coming in? Are items auctioned on a first come, first auctioned basis? I was at the fall auction and it was done pretty well, but they didn't take items in after the auction started. This sounds a bit shaky.

Please clue me in!

Joel

PVAS has been running auctions for over 30 years. This club wrote the book on running auctions. They run smooth and they don't charge for bidding numbers either. I give them LOTS of credit for keeping the registration open two hours past the auction start time. It CUTS off 2 hours on the backside of the auction. Nothing shaky here Joel, just great fish people running a great SMOOTH auction. If you were at the catfish convention, you got a preview. I was at the Greater Pittsburgh auction this past weekend and they also run a smooth auction. That auction ran for 8 solid hours.......... Non-stop auctioning.

Lonny

mrkillie
04-21-2009, 3:41 PM
PVAS has been running auctions for over 30 years. This club wrote the book on running auctions. They run smooth and they don't charge for bidding numbers either. I give them LOTS of credit for keeping the registration open two hours past the auction start time. It CUTS off 2 hours on the backside of the auction. Nothing shaky here Joel, just great fish people running a great SMOOTH auction. If you were at the catfish convention, you got a preview. I was at the Greater Pittsburgh auction this past weekend and they also run a smooth auction. That auction ran for 8 solid hours.......... Non-stop auctioning.

Lonny

Lonny,

I just want to make sure that I'll have a chance to see everything before it's auctioned off, and I don't want to miss anything while doing so. That is simply because

A) most auctioneers have, at best a little, and at worst a whole heckuva lot, of trouble pronouncing scientific names (and that includes those that were auctioneers at the catfish convention last fall)

B) it's tough to get a good fish count in the bag sometimes, and auctioneers try to do it more quickly and sometimes err. Their judgement of fish size also sometimes varies greatly from reality.

C) obviously, I trust my own judgement of fish health much more than anyone else's

and D) I'll have an idea of how many bags/species I am interested in - if it's only a few, maybe I just up the $2 fast forward fee for each of them and get the heck out of dodge that much earlier.

And yes, they did a good job at the catfish convention and Pittsburgh has been doing a good job since before I was in that club, but I've been to some that have run more smoothly. One thing they do at the AKA convention auction that I haven't seen anywhere else, and I don't know why-although I don't go to all that many auctions (maybe 4 o 5 /year) is to list the auction lots that are coming up on an overhead screen so people can plan their trips to the restroom, to get refreshments, or whatever. Easily done with a laptop and a projector or an overhead projector.

Joel

ingg
04-21-2009, 7:11 PM
Easily done if items are logged in days previously, you mean.

They have hundreds upon hundreds of lots. Runners grab items from the tables marked in the appropriate lot at random and real time. Love to see you log them all in, and sort them in the order of which the auctioneers auction them - REAL TIME, you can't get any prep work. All you need to do is type 120 wpm and get a nice orderly line of 15-18 runners. ;)

mrkillie
04-21-2009, 11:39 PM
Easily done if items are logged in days previously, you mean.

They have hundreds upon hundreds of lots. Runners grab items from the tables marked in the appropriate lot at random and real time. Love to see you log them all in, and sort them in the order of which the auctioneers auction them - REAL TIME, you can't get any prep work. All you need to do is type 120 wpm and get a nice orderly line of 15-18 runners. ;)

No, actually, I do NOT mean that. It's all done real time at the AKA, and they have hundreds of lots as well. Nobody determines the order of the auction prior to the start of it. You could never maintain the order. AND the AKA auction moves a lot faster than any general club auction I've ever been to. None of this crap of up and down with the hands and "going once, going twice etc.". It's put your hand up at the beginning of the bid, last one up wins, move to the next item. My guess would be that it moves at least 50% faster than say, the catfish convention auction last fall.

As for implementing such a system at the auction, you just have the runners grab a bag of fish, go to the person at the computer, he notes the lot # and an abbreviation of the fish name (i.e. #134 Neo. brich). They don't have to write out "Lot # 134 (6) Fry Neolamprologus brichardi". Just a brief indication of what is to come. Heck, you could even just do the lot number. Then they go to their place in line by the auctioneer. And everyone will be a lot happier.

Joel

CharmCityAngels
04-22-2009, 12:21 AM
I'm contemplating going. Can always use some new tanks. Like cheap prices.

iamzrad
04-22-2009, 6:55 AM
Yikes, I forgot the College Park tuning meet is the same day. I might stop by the auction after the meet if there is still time left over.

Can you jump in the auction (buyer) at any time?

mscichlid
04-22-2009, 7:49 AM
You can buy a bidder's card anytime during the auction. Make sure to bring your license and cash and you are good to go...

DonkeyFish
04-24-2009, 12:46 AM
Except you don't actually have to *buy* a bidder's card :) Just turn over your license as collateral.

It's an all-day auction for sure. If you're just coming in the afternoon you'll be more limited so far as what's still there, but the upside is the prices drop as the day goes on. Come on out when you get done! Never know what you'll see....

iamzrad: College Park tuning meet?? Assuming that refers to cars, yes? Shop affiliated or just clubs 'n folks?

mscichlid
04-24-2009, 6:09 AM
I didn't mean buy! Residual from another thread. The 'purchase' is your license.

Cartel
04-24-2009, 7:25 AM
Yikes, I forgot the College Park tuning meet is the same day. I might stop by the auction after the meet if there is still time left over.

Can you jump in the auction (buyer) at any time?

Ill be at CP meet! Wont be taking my car since its down...but im riding out with a friend.

jonclark96
04-26-2009, 2:07 PM
Just got home from the auction. Boy, could I have spent a lot of money there if I only had more room in my tanks. Things were dirt cheap, and the selection was pretty good. Picked up a pair of Bolivian Rams for $5 and a 4" rainbow (herotilapia multispinosa) for $6. I would have spent the rest of the afternoon there if I didn't have to get home to the family.

Auction was organized and well done. I would recommend to anyone!

F8LBITE
04-26-2009, 5:49 PM
yeah they had some cool stuff but I couldnt stay all day.

dogofwar
04-26-2009, 6:42 PM
I went as well (with Richard/Submariner)...and took off early as well.

Saw Kevin/Spine and Josh/Jumbie and other CCA'ers as well.

They had some amazing deals on tanks and fish. Not too many cichlids but I got a pair of Gymnos...and a 20L with a bulkhead for $6...

Matt

iamzrad
04-26-2009, 9:42 PM
Ill be at CP meet! Wont be taking my car since its down...but im riding out with a friend.

AH! Should of given me a call!
I was there with my Z guys.

Cartel
04-26-2009, 11:16 PM
I actually didnt make it out I had forgotten my gf had her sorority formal in bmore this weekend. Otherwise I would have tried to find you! Should have been a pretty good turn out id imagine. By the time I dropped her off in college park today everyone was gone.

Lively
04-27-2009, 8:26 AM
Just got home from the auction. Boy, could I have spent a lot of money there if I only had more room in my tanks. Things were dirt cheap, and the selection was pretty good. Picked up a pair of Bolivian Rams for $5 and a 4" rainbow (herotilapia multispinosa) for $6. I would have spent the rest of the afternoon there if I didn't have to get home to the family.

Auction was organized and well done. I would recommend to anyone!

You picked up two of the fish on my "wish list"! (Imagine a Green faced Icon = Jealous! lol) Nice.

Jumbie
04-27-2009, 12:04 PM
I had a great time at the auction on Sunday. I got some nice cichlid books, picked up some catfish, and some really cool fish that Matt brought.

DiscusnAfricans
04-27-2009, 12:06 PM
There weren't a ton of cichlids there, but there were good deals on the ones available. Picked up some nice daffodil and a trio of afra. It was plant, cory, pleco and livebearer heaven, and tank combos went crazy cheap. Glad I made it, but I'll stick with my CCA meetings regularly. This place is still my home.

mrkillie
04-27-2009, 12:35 PM
There weren't a ton of cichlids there, but there were good deals on the ones available. Picked up some nice daffodil and a trio of afra. It was plant, cory, pleco and livebearer heaven, and tank combos went crazy cheap. Glad I made it, but I'll stick with my CCA meetings regularly. This place is still my home.

I picked up some Archocentrus nanoluteus and Haplochromis sp. Ruby Green, both ACA CARES fish, as well as a Geo. steindachneri breeding group, one female of which was holding fry. :) I also picked up some corys, since there were more catfich in that auction than there were at the Catfish Convention. :o As is my usual, once my box was full, I left, about 1:00 which was only about halfway through the "3" table. I bet people who stayed or showed up late got some great deals.

Joel

dogofwar
04-27-2009, 1:31 PM
Well done, Sir! The haps and nanos are both from my fishroom...I have more if you'd like more :)

Please register your ACA CARES fish!

Best wishes,
Matt

I picked up some Archocentrus nanoluteus and Haplochromis sp. Ruby Green, both ACA CARES fish, as well as a Geo. steindachneri breeding group, one female of which was holding fry. :) I also picked up some corys, since there were more catfich in that auction than there were at the Catfish Convention. :o As is my usual, once my box was full, I left, about 1:00 which was only about halfway through the "3" table. I bet people who stayed or showed up late got some great deals.

Joel

F8LBITE
04-27-2009, 1:45 PM
whats "ACA cares"?

dogofwar
04-27-2009, 1:57 PM
The ACA has developed a list of threatened and endangered cichlid species as well as a list of people who are keeping them. Many are Lake Victorian but there are others.

Here's a link: http://www.cichlid.org/ACA_CARES.html

SubMariner
04-28-2009, 12:15 AM
I went as well (with Richard/Submariner)...and took off early as well.

Saw Kevin/Spine and Josh/Jumbie and other CCA'ers as well.

They had some amazing deals on tanks and fish. Not too many cichlids but I got a pair of Gymnos...and a 20L with a bulkhead for $6...

Matt


Yea, had pretty cool time at the PVAS Spring Auction. It was great to see Michael Barber, Frank Cowherd, Kevin(Spine), Jumbie(josh), Ashley, Jamie, Ron leftwich, Emily, Rodney, Larry, and the ladies in charge of the donuts and sodas. Matt and I decided to go because it was such a nice day.

There were lots of deals on tanks and drygoods as well as tons of fish. Not many African Cichlids, but it was fun just being there.

I think I saw Jen(donkeyfish), but I did not get a chance to say hi or bye and Sherry seemed to busy doing her little member survey with everyone to come over and say hi to me, but that's okay. I'm not mad....:angry3: Just kidding Sherry;)


Anyways, Next stop... Adberto Konings Sanchez on May 9th, I think he's related to Cheech and Carlos Mensia or George Lopez. One of the two.:cool: That latino brother knows his Africans, I guess it's in our blue jeans.:p


Richard

Sonny Disposition
04-28-2009, 9:46 AM
Adberto Konings Sanchez? I think I remember him. He was married to that Latin singer for awhile, right? Apistogramma Viejita?

Yea, had pretty cool time at the PVAS Spring Auction. It was great to see Michael Barber, Frank Cowherd, Kevin(Spine), Jumbie(josh), Ashley, Jamie, Ron leftwich, Emily, Rodney, Larry, and the ladies in charge of the donuts and sodas. Matt and I decided to go because it was such a nice day.

There were lots of deals on tanks and drygoods as well as tons of fish. Not many African Cichlids, but it was fun just being there.

I think I saw Jen(donkeyfish), but I did not get a chance to say hi or bye and Sherry seemed to busy doing her little member survey with everyone to come over and say hi to me, but that's okay. I'm not mad....:angry3: Just kidding Sherry;)


Anyways, Next stop... Adberto Konings Sanchez on May 9th, I think he's related to Cheech and Carlos Mensia or George Lopez. One of the two.:cool: That latino brother knows his Africans, I guess it's in our blue jeans.:p


Richard

DonkeyFish
04-28-2009, 2:15 PM
I think I saw Jen(donkeyfish), but I did not get a chance to say hi or bye and Sherry seemed to busy doing her little member survey with everyone to come over and say hi to me, but that's okay. I'm not mad....:angry3: Just kidding Sherry;)

Anyways, Next stop... Adberto Konings Sanchez on May 9th, I think he's related to Cheech and Carlos Mensia or George Lopez. One of the two.:cool: That latino brother knows his Africans, I guess it's in our blue jeans.:p

Richard

Too funny! Yeah, I was there, saw you for a minute too. That auction was nuts. One of those things where you spend half the time just shaking your head in disbelief. Tank prices were ridiculous. Three 55-gal tanks with filters and "stuff" went for $30 each. There were 10-gal. tanks for days. I think they were practically giving them away.

Was awesome to finally get to put (screen)names to faces! Had a blast with Spine, Jumbie, DiscusnAfricans and F8LBite. Met some others too, but don't remember their screen names. Basically a great way to blow off a Sunday buying cheap stuff you may or may not have needed and hanging out with fellow fish folk. Now, where on earth am I gonna put all this narrow leaf Java Fern?? :rolleyes:

Kets
05-01-2009, 11:36 PM
I got some Cories.

C. schwartzi
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh163/Ketsuron/Picture013-1.jpg
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C. erhardti
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh163/Ketsuron/Picture023.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh163/Ketsuron/Picture037.jpg

C. CW009
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh163/Ketsuron/Picture025.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh163/Ketsuron/Picture031.jpg
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